Cannabis and Bipolar Disorder: What do we know? What do we still need to learn?
Cannabis and Bipolar Disorder: What do we know? What do we still need to learn?
Andrew Penn, RN, MS, NP, APRN-BC, explores the controversy of using cannabis therapeutically for mood stabilization, anxiety reduction, and the promotion of sleep.
This webinar explains how cannabis works in the brain, what we know about the risks of exacerbating mental illness, how to reduce these risks, and what we still need to learn before we know if cannabis can be therapeutic for bipolar patients.
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Andrew Penn, RN, MS, NP, APRN-BC, was trained as an adult nurse practitioner and psychiatric clinical nurse specialist at the University of California, San Francisco. He is board certified as an adult nurse practitioner and psychiatric nurse practitioner by the American Nurses Credentialing Center. Currently, he serves as an Assistant Clinical Professor at the University of California-San Francisco School of Nursing. Mr. Penn is a psychiatric nurse practitioner with Kaiser Permanente in Redwood City, CA, where he provides psychopharmacological treatment for adult patients and specializes in the treatment of affective disorders and trauma. He has interest in promoting psychiatric wellness through exercise, meditation, and meaningful social relationships. He is also interested in emerging novel treatments for psychiatric disorders including MDMA-assisted psychotherapy for PTSD and the use of psilocybin-assisted psychotherapy for depression. He is a former board member of the American Psychiatric Nurses Association, California Chapter, and has presented nationally on improving medication adherence, the risks and therapeutic potential of cannabinoids, treatment-resistant depression, diagnosis and treatment of bipolar disorder, and the art and science of psychopharmacologic practice.
Nancy Reagen I think is being misused here with her quote of Just Say No. My understanding was that it was aimed at young ones to help them avoid drug use. I don’t believe it was an issue of medical use, but young people doing it for entertainment.
Ive been a close to daily weed smoker for years but I can’t lie, the only time I’ve ever had a scary panic attack was right after I smoked a blunt with a couple friends. And even after that my body didn’t feel right for like 2 weeks it had to of been some kind of psychosomatic episode induced by marijuana… oh well.
When you say its more likely to stay depressed using cannabis do you mean THC ? because ive read several articles where CBD is great for bipolar disease ?
Several studies demonstrate that Cannabis, Cannabidiol worst Bipolar Affective Disorder
Cannabidiol was ineffective for manic episode of bipolar affective disorder, see Journal of Psychopharmacology January 2010 24(1):135 http://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/0269881108096521?url_ver=Z39.88-2003&rfr_id=ori:rid:crossref.org&rfr_dat=cr_pub%3dpubmed
Just starting my journey re this I do not have a med card So any advice I amBi So any help would be helpful
Bipolar discussion starts at 25:10
Who knows nowadays anyway? I mean this dude probably thinks you need to sleep a full 8 hours every night.
SEVERAL EVIDENCES THAT CANNABIS TRIGGER AND WORST BIPOLAR DISORDER
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had these issues .. cannabis gave relief,,,
Ok so bottom line if you have a
Bi use or not use cbd ?? This presentation has confused me. Help
I been doing a lot of research on cbd oil. I think it is safer to keep dosage very low to prevent hallucinations. Basic CBD low THC helps with pain and it has reduced anxiety.
It really helps with me. Helps me calm down when I’m irritated or can’t sleep. It also helps me when I’m too depressed to eat!! It helps me get hungry. So yes Cannabis helps me in sooo many ways.
Bipolar II here! i smoke pot everyday since a year and a half, sometimes it’s a great helps, some others doesn’t make any change on my state, and some other times it makes worse, at hypomania or depressive, the effect it’s never the same…
It seems odd that the chart at 28:00 doesn’t have a cannabis only column like it does for tobacco only. I feel this study is incomplete for this reason.
You need to use small doses and build your tolerance slow and small doses you can relax and not be impaired but you no people they dont have self control if you sick enough you will
i had been sick for 20 years, BIPOLAR disorder , sever pain, epilepsy ,ibs with diarihia , cannabis oils saved my life thanks for the video dan
cannabis has helped me tremendously. I have Bi Polar II and I found that it brings me down when I become manic and it also helps me sleep while I’m manic, this is a hard thing to do. When I’m depressed it allows me to feel better and suppresses thoughts. I am completely thankful for this medicine and would like to try to push for medicinal use sometime. I can function on this medicine because it slows down my thinking and allows me to think things through.
Bipolar I, Disability, SSI. Marijuana helped for three years tremendously, and in the last two years sent me into a haze of panic attacks and confusion, avoid usage.
There were 2 times that marijuana would give me severe anxiety. It was like a dark evil cloud surrounded me. Like being in hell!
When I started taking Prozac (both times) I could smoke more with NO anxiety whatsoever.
My first 3 manic episodes were stress related and I thought of them as "Nervous Breakdowns" and not a medical condition.
I can no longer take Prozac because it may elevate me into mania.
I am currently testing Indica strains for mania and insomnia.
Seroquel seems to help eliminate my marijuana cravings.
Great webinar. Those of us with bipolar have trouble with THC. This is especially true if we also experience psychosis. I choose not to use any cannabis as I get manic and psychotic ever time, even with the lowest possible THC. If people with bipolar are going to use cannabis, the safe route is CBD only where you have a professional assurance that the THC is extremely low. Weed from the street will be high THC. I wish I could use it, but I prefer to be stable. Julie Fast
I broke my ankle and started using the CBD oil and it helps tremendously I no longer need the Vicodin and Percocets the prescribed me for the pain, it also helps my social anxiety also, it also helps me sleep at night so I love CBD and it has definitely improved the quality of life for me.
When it comes to your kids i think my bipolar has me more impaired that what marijuana does and atleast they can see there parent happy what does bipolar do makes you want to sleep for days would rather smoke marijuana and be on the couch. There is no good situation here there is bad or worse i would choose bad just saying and you are more aware than people think you do not pass out and not watch your kids thats alchol
Smoking weed makes me manic. Being sober makes me depressed.
Mania makes me 10x more productive than the average person.
Depression makes me 10x less productive than the average person.
I’ve never been able to find CLOSE to a middle since this has started. This is new to me and I’m so scared. If my manic actions were consistent, it looks like I’d be on the road to becoming an extremely valuable member of society who can create abundance for my community and family. If my depressed actions stay consistent, it looks like I’d be on the road to poverty…just a miserable soul feeding off the productivity of my family. Should I keep trying to benefit off manic episodes, or should I quit smoking and just deal with the depression? I genuinely would appreciate any advice or shared experiences.
Can someone give me the gist and save me the hour twelve?
Thank you Andrew Penn for providing the most informative, unbiased and useful report on Cannabis I have found.
Dope is the wrong way to go
Thank You for presenting the data it will aid in my decisions.
Are you reading from the same outdated and misleading medical sources that Jeff Sessions reads? Because it sounds as if you are as ignorant to the facts that cannabis has many medical benefits as does he. A little word of advice for you, if you want all those little initials you add to the end of your name to actually carry value then try reading from other sources than just those printed by the AMA.
I used cannabis before I had bipolar
Good for my depressionWORSENS MANIA/PSYCHOSIS i stay away
I have personally used cannibis to treat my bipolar disorder haven’t taken medication for years I don’t think it’s a solution for everyone as we’re all different but it’s definitely good at stabilising my moods as they changed very quickly when untreated
when i was a teen i used dab pens, and a dab pen is not a good route. they say oh its just this but its actually so many other unhealthy things you find in it. i can take 2 hits and hallucinate and cant feel my body and its just wack. now for marijuana that isnt so produced badly (like most dab pen carts come from someones basment) they just make me feel calmer. but the dab pen sent me to the hospital and they found it wasnt just marijuana and natural stuff. watch out what you take and do, i dont do it at all because its scary and i dont wanna feel that again. i know the non dab pen ones work very well, i just felt calm and not so irritated. but dab pens (basically o pens) are not good. they may smell like marijuana but theres just terrible stuff.
If people are using cannabis in their youth to treat bipolar disorder, it’s likely because they don’t have an alternative. I think an effective way to address stopping its use it I think would be to take the "let’s replace it with something that will help you a little bit better" route.
Quetaipine is utterly pervasive and insidious to health an well-being . His reaction is very telling. It’s very expensive and over prescribed. Hmmmm